Comments on: BMW M3 (E92 E93) Racing Slicks and Racing Wheels http://johncunningham.com/2009/bmw-m3-e92-e93-racing-slicks-and-racing-wheels/ Random Stuff of No Particular Importance Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:53:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: David http://johncunningham.com/2009/bmw-m3-e92-e93-racing-slicks-and-racing-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-48 David Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:53:57 +0000 http://johncunningham.com/?p=464#comment-48 I have a similar set up on my 2005 M3 vert. I had my 18 inch D Force LTW5's sandblasted and then power coated satin black for an awesome finish. I have some very nasty brake dust from my full ceramic race only Cobalt Friction pads for the Brembo GT 6 pot monoblock(front) and 4 pot monoblock rear i had fitted. I consider a BBK a must. I too use Castrol SRF AND titanium heat shields that fit right on top of the pads in the calipers. I heat the living be jezuz out of my brakes and never have even a tiny bit of fade. I can take much faster cars because i can OUTBRAKE them... Even the E90 with a good driver, which is hell to catch BTW. I had almost all my dust shields sawed off too to allow more air to cool the rotors. I went to Hawk ceramic low dust for the street so dust on day to day is not an issue so much. I am running the same BF Goodrich but in 265 square. I may change to 275 but i think that 265 square is supposed to be ideal for the e46. I also run KW coil overs and POWERFLEX polyurethane bushings that helps immensely. Also from TMS: Camber plates, adjustable front and rear H&R (made to TMS specifications)anti sway bars. The front one is massive. Wow, what a difference. All those handling tweaks did more good than adding several hundred horsepower. At least now i can put it all to the ground should i ever want to increase the HP significantly. I put down only 300-315 to the ground. That is maybe 380 at the crank. But everything is so TUNED. I have found that is the key. Its all in the tuning, even your alignment on track days. Now once the car is so well set up it is so easy to do exactly what your instructor asks you to do with the car. There is no fighting, just a natural smooth flow. All the mods i did for the track work just fine on the street too even though i dont use all of what the car has to offer when it is on legal highways of course. The ride is still very tolerable. Good eniugh to drive long distances. My car DOES crash over any potholes and SHARP urban ridges. There is no getting around that. But it cruises just fine. I would not hesitate to dive it coast to coast. It sounds like you have the bug. Dont stop with your mods just yet. The enjoyment for me anyway is worth adding some or all of the things i talk about. Every single modification i have made i feel very significantly in the final driving of the car. I have a similar set up on my 2005 M3 vert. I had my 18 inch D Force LTW5’s sandblasted and then power coated satin black for an awesome finish. I have some very nasty brake dust from my full ceramic race only Cobalt Friction pads for the Brembo GT 6 pot monoblock(front) and 4 pot monoblock rear i had fitted. I consider a BBK a must. I too use Castrol SRF AND titanium heat shields that fit right on top of the pads in the calipers. I heat the living be jezuz out of my brakes and never have even a tiny bit of fade. I can take much faster cars because i can OUTBRAKE them… Even the E90 with a good driver, which is hell to catch BTW.
I had almost all my dust shields sawed off too to allow more air to cool the rotors. I went to Hawk ceramic low dust for the street so dust on day to day is not an issue so much.
I am running the same BF Goodrich but in 265 square. I may change to 275 but i think that 265 square is supposed to be ideal for the e46.

I also run KW coil overs and POWERFLEX polyurethane bushings that helps immensely. Also from TMS: Camber plates, adjustable front and rear H&R (made to TMS specifications)anti sway bars. The front one is massive. Wow, what a difference.

All those handling tweaks did more good than adding several hundred horsepower. At least now i can put it all to the ground should i ever want to increase the HP significantly. I put down only 300-315 to the ground. That is maybe 380 at the crank. But everything is so TUNED. I have found that is the key. Its all in the tuning, even your alignment on track days.
Now once the car is so well set up it is so easy to do exactly what your instructor asks you to do with the car. There is no fighting, just a natural smooth flow.

All the mods i did for the track work just fine on the street too even though i dont use all of what the car has to offer when it is on legal highways of course. The ride is still very tolerable. Good eniugh to drive long distances.
My car DOES crash over any potholes and SHARP urban ridges. There is no getting around that. But it cruises just fine. I would not hesitate to dive it coast to coast.

It sounds like you have the bug. Dont stop with your mods just yet. The enjoyment for me anyway is worth adding some or all of the things i talk about. Every single modification i have made i feel very significantly in the final driving of the car.

]]> By: john http://johncunningham.com/2009/bmw-m3-e92-e93-racing-slicks-and-racing-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-46 john Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:31:10 +0000 http://johncunningham.com/?p=464#comment-46 Hi. No I never really considered those since the dforce were so light, so affordable and came so highly recommended. Thanks for the comment and info... Hi. No I never really considered those since the dforce were so light, so affordable and came so highly recommended. Thanks for the comment and info…

]]> By: shung http://johncunningham.com/2009/bmw-m3-e92-e93-racing-slicks-and-racing-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-45 shung Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:31:52 +0000 http://johncunningham.com/?p=464#comment-45 Thanks for posting your experience. I have had similar problems with my brakes on an e90 m3. Driving with stock pads, I warped the front rotors slightly on my first track day. I thought bedding the brakes would alleviate the mild shudder but after the 2nd day they were totally warped. I read a post on the m3 forum about brake ducts and had them installed by Cantrell Motorports in Seattle along with Goodrich SS lines, Motul brake fluid, and Pagid yellow endurance pads. Made a noticeable difference but still had issues with brake fade. Then, I spun at Pacific Raceways and a large rock took out the oil cooler and the front right brake duct but suspension was fine. So I converted back to stock front ducts. Car is in perfect condition now and lack of brake ducts didn't make a huge difference my last track day. But of course ambient temp was much cooler. My friend has an e46 with Stop Techs and he has never had an issue with his brakes. I am now convinced that BBK is the only way to alleviate this problem and this will be my winter project. Probably Stop Tech due to costs but that AP racing BBK looks pretty juicy. I was considering the tire rack light weight wheels (TRMotorsports MT1) which are only18.5 and 19 lbs f/r but now I might go for the D-force. They are similar in look and price. Did you consider these wheels? If so, why did you pick the D-force? Nice post. Glad to see someone else out there with similar track fever! I'll put these comments in the m3post as well. Thanks for posting your experience. I have had similar problems with my brakes on an e90 m3. Driving with stock pads, I warped the front rotors slightly on my first track day. I thought bedding the brakes would alleviate the mild shudder but after the 2nd day they were totally warped.

I read a post on the m3 forum about brake ducts and had them installed by Cantrell Motorports in Seattle along with Goodrich SS lines, Motul brake fluid, and Pagid yellow endurance pads. Made a noticeable difference but still had issues with brake fade.

Then, I spun at Pacific Raceways and a large rock took out the oil cooler and the front right brake duct but suspension was fine. So I converted back to stock front ducts. Car is in perfect condition now and lack of brake ducts didn’t make a huge difference my last track day. But of course ambient temp was much cooler.

My friend has an e46 with Stop Techs and he has never had an issue with his brakes. I am now convinced that BBK is the only way to alleviate this problem and this will be my winter project. Probably Stop Tech due to costs but that AP racing BBK looks pretty juicy.

I was considering the tire rack light weight wheels (TRMotorsports MT1) which are only18.5 and 19 lbs f/r but now I might go for the D-force. They are similar in look and price. Did you consider these wheels? If so, why did you pick the D-force?

Nice post. Glad to see someone else out there with similar track fever! I’ll put these comments in the m3post as well.

]]> By: john http://johncunningham.com/2009/bmw-m3-e92-e93-racing-slicks-and-racing-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-42 john Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:34:15 +0000 http://johncunningham.com/?p=464#comment-42 Thanks for the tip, I'll do that. Thanks for the tip, I’ll do that.

]]> By: Finnegan http://johncunningham.com/2009/bmw-m3-e92-e93-racing-slicks-and-racing-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Finnegan Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:55:22 +0000 http://johncunningham.com/?p=464#comment-41 Great stuff. Thanks for posting this up over at M3post. Some of us actually appreciate the information. The track/autocross section is probably a better place to post than the general forum too...fewer haters and more like-minded (track folks) as well and probably more welcoming audience. Great stuff. Thanks for posting this up over at M3post. Some of us actually appreciate the information.

The track/autocross section is probably a better place to post than the general forum too…fewer haters and more like-minded (track folks) as well and probably more welcoming audience.

]]> By: john http://johncunningham.com/2009/bmw-m3-e92-e93-racing-slicks-and-racing-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-40 john Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:09:02 +0000 http://johncunningham.com/?p=464#comment-40 Thanks. No rubbing as the spacers takes good care of that. Thanks. No rubbing as the spacers takes good care of that.

]]> By: Johnny Roaster http://johncunningham.com/2009/bmw-m3-e92-e93-racing-slicks-and-racing-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-39 Johnny Roaster Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:52:07 +0000 http://johncunningham.com/?p=464#comment-39 Those 275's look awesome. Have you had any problems with them rubbing up front? Those 275’s look awesome. Have you had any problems with them rubbing up front?

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